Preventing a Frame when Converting a Table to Text

by Allen Wyatt
(last updated October 13, 2020)


When Peg has a table with the text wrapping set for Around, and then she converts the table to text, that text ends up being in a frame. She doesn't want it in a frame; she just wants it as plain, in-line with text. Peg wonders if there is a setting to prevent the converted table from ending up in a frame.

There is no setting that controls this behavior. Word does it because it doesn't know where to put the table text relative to the regular document text, so it places it in a frame. The only way around this manually is to change the text wrapping so that the table is inline, and then do the conversion to text. You could automate this a bit by using a simple macro:

Sub ConvertTable1()
    If Selection.Information(wdWithInTable) Then
        Selection.Tables(1).Rows.WrapAroundText = False
        Selection.Rows.ConvertToText Separator:=wdSeparateByTabs, _
          NestedTables:= True
        MsgBox "Insertion point must be in a table."
    End If
End Sub

Of course, if you choose to go the "macro route," you could use the macro to convert the table to text (which would place it in a frame) and then delete the frame. Here's the way to do that:

Sub ConvertTable2()
    If Selection.Information(wdWithInTable) Then
        Selection.Rows.ConvertToText Separator:=wdSeparateByTabs, _
          NestedTables:= True
        MsgBox "Insertion point must be in a table."
    End If
End Sub

Either macro produces the same result. All you need to do is make sure the insertion point is within the table and then run the macro.


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Author Bio

Allen Wyatt

With more than 50 non-fiction books and numerous magazine articles to his credit, Allen Wyatt is an internationally recognized author. He is president of Sharon Parq Associates, a computer and publishing services company. ...


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What is five minus 4?

2017-02-06 11:14:07

Jim Swindle

Note to the other Jim:
To create your first macro in Word, open a blank document. Click View, Macros, Record Macro.
Keep the default macro name. Store in "All Documents (Normal.dotm)."
Click OK. Make a trivial change, such as typing one letter. Click View, Macros, Stop Recording. Then, to paste any macro found here into your Normal.dotm file, click View, Macros,
View Macros. Select the one you just created (probably Macro1). Click Edit. That opens a Visual Basic code window. Back on the internet, on this page or another, select the macro to copy. If on Windows, right-click and copy. Then, in the Visual Basic code window, click on the line after the existing macro. If on Windows, right-click and Paste. Then click Save. Then close that window.

2017-02-06 10:09:39

Jennifer Thomas

Beware of non-inline tables for other reasons, though - like non-repeating header rows at the top, paragraph marks in between tables that cannot be deleted, rows that won't respond to 'don't break across pages' settings, etc.. Our best practice is to always use tables inline, especially if they are complex structure - just to avoid those sort of unexpected and hard to diagnose issues.

2017-02-06 08:50:19


Thank you! Was hoping, of course, to find a setting but it's nearly as good to know there isn't one.

2017-02-04 09:14:06



I can type (or OCR) the program offered, but where, exactly, is it saved? How do I get it to execute?
Twenty years ago when I was making macros in Lotus 1-2-3 to automate my students' grades, I just stored them in an area on the worksheet in which they were needed.
If I remember right, cell A1 contained "0/" and cells
contained the macro which automatically ran when opening the spreadsheet.

I suppose I could get off my duff and find the answer in the Excel macro book. Thanks for tool! Been looking forward to reading it more, but the same question initially popped up.


For complex programs, I copy the image off the screen and run it through an OCR program.
No typos!

My brilliant chemical engineer nephew says Lotus can handle very large determinants that are beyond Excel's capabilities. Well Al, I gotta tell you that since I retired from 49 years of teaching math and science, I thankfully do NOT need to deal with determinants (a GREAT name for my wife's honey-do list).

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